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Mixed Nuts at Liberty University
Many are surprised to learn that we are unwelcome at Christian colleges and universities, where we are often denounced by students and faculty alike. Here are some of the more disappointing comments from our recent trips to Liberty University.
Inconvenient maybe, but not inappropriate. A Liberty student told CBR staff member Joanna Keilson, “How long are you going to be here? This is inappropriate. You’re showing pictures of dead babies. This is a Christian campus.” This student can ignore God’s admonition to do oppose injustice, but he can never again say that he didn’t know.
How did you come to that conclusion? Jacob had many questions, but was sure about one thing. “Oh, I support abortion. I don’t think we know when life begins.” The biology books in your library say something very different. So does Matthew 1:18-23, where God tells us that the life of Jesus Messiah began when Jesus was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit.
Where is that in the Bible? “You know what my favorite Bible verse is? The one that says to love your neighbor and like, not shove things down their throat.” Hopefully, they’ll let him take Bible 101 again …
Ignorance is bliss. CBR staffer Fletcher Armstrong asked a passing student what he thought about abortion. The student replied, “I’m not educated enough to know.” So Fletcher offered him one of our informational leaflets. The student turned it down.
What’s political about child sacrifice? One student refused to speak with us because he doesn’t “get into politics.”
Mixed Nuts at Old Dominion University
Just two years after our first visit to Old Dominion U (ODU) in Norfolk, Va., we were back for another round. This time, the abortion pictures had just as great an impact as Round 1.
Lightening the load. A pro-life student has witnessed the power of pictures. He said, “Thank you so much. I love it when you guys come to campus. I don’t know how to talk to people about this, so it’s great that you are here.”
Another student expressed similar sentiments, “Thank you. I never know how to bring this issue up and your display starts conversations.”
It impacts everyone. Olivia cried because her father strongly pressured her mother to abort her older sister. (We wonder what he thinks now?)
Kill them all. “Just kill all the kids, I don’t care!!” she told Joanna.
Hard target. CBR staffer Maggie overheard 2 guys and 1 girl having an interesting conversation.
Girl: Why don’t you go talk to her [Maggie]?
Guy 1: No. I don’t want to.
Guy 2: So you’re happy to argue with old white men but not a young white woman?
Guy 1: [Inaudible]
Guy 2: Maybe ‘cause you can’t use her age and gender against like you just did with that guy.
Homicide better than suicide? Student: “Women must be given the choice to abort because we never know if that woman will kill herself without it.” In other words, women are weak and can’t handle the problems they get themselves into.
Battling the negative vibes. “For you to put up with these negative attitudes, thank you. It must be hard,” A professor told Jane.
Easy Results. Two adult African-American women asked Mik’aela about rape while a pro-abortion student stood nearby.
Mik’aela: Should we kill the rapist?
Woman: No!
Mik’aela: Should the child get the death penalty instead?
Woman: Oh! Oh! Oh! You got me! You got me! You’re right!
Her friend agreed and they both thanked Mik’aela and continued to discuss how Mik’aela’s answer was such a good point. The pro-abortion girl just watched them, thinking.
Mixed Nuts at University of North Carolina Greensboro
Almost everyone prefers to ignore abortion. But when we bring the truth of abortion into the light, it’s almost impossible for anyone to avoid it.
Government is God. “I know it is human but if society says abortion is morally justifiable, so do I,” he told Mik’aela. “If society changes its mind, would you change too?” Mik’aela asked. “Yes. Where else can we get our morality from?” If government can’t tell us what’s right, then who can?
Consistent to a fault. A young woman told us that a woman has the right to kill because it is her body. Even a moment before birth. Even during the birth. Even after birth if the umbilical cord is still attached. She defended all three, though she was uncomfortable with the last one. Perhaps her consistency can help her see the depravity of her position.
Backfired attempt. A young woman called the police because she wanted them to remove us from campus. However, the police ended up threatening to take her to jail because she was being so disrespectful.
Don’t be mean to abortionists! A young man said we shouldn’t compare abortionists to death-camp doctors. Meanwhile he argued for abortion to prevent children from having bad lives.
The voice of tolerance. As she threw sandbags off our display she told Jane, “Don’t touch me, b****. I hit women, too.”
So many hurting. “Good morning,” he said as he took a pamphlet and then said very softly, “I wish I had been aborted.” This young man needs our prayers.
More Gems at University of North Carolina Greensboro
Our first visit to UNC Greensboro was met with hostility. On this trip, GAP certainly stimulated a response, but it was less hostile and more thoughtful.
Not so sure anymore. At our poll table, she voted for abortion to remain legal, but after speaking with Mik’aela, she took her name off! “I am not sure anymore,” she said.
Bravery. “Your bravery is so incredible. Thank you so much,” Wyatt told CBR staffer Jane Bullington.
Let’s talk about abortion! Phil approached Jane. “I have to do a persuasive speech and the only forbidden topic was abortion. Then you guys explode the topic on campus!”
More appealing than the other side. A young man went up to some of the protesters and said, “Sometimes I think their logic is better than yours, and I’m even on your side!” he exclaimed. Later he said to the same folks, “The only one who has yelled at me was over there [he pointed to a pro-abort] and she was in my grill so much it made me want to go to the other side.”
Freudian slip. After a long conversation, pro-abortion Ben was about to leave, but said one more thing, “I think a woman has the right to do what she wants to do with her baby.” Jane challenged that last word. “Baby or body?” she asked. “You know what I meant,” he insisted. “Yes,” Jane replied, “You said baby.”
Students don’t take sex seriously. A professor from Senegal approached one of our staff. “I have a hard time with blood and gore, but I am glad you are here. We need this. Students don’t take sex seriously. I waited until marriage to have sex and I have Christian friends of the same mindset. It can be done. Thank you for being here.”
Gems at University of North Carolina Greensboro
Based on previous experience, we were expecting hateful protests at our latest visit to the University of North Carolina at Greensboro (UNCG). We certainly got those, but we also had countless positive comments and thoughtful conversations with logical students.
You’re doing what you set out to do. A pro-abortion student was impressed. He said, “I don’t agree with your position but you are doing exactly what you set out to do, and doing it very well. I applaud you for standing up for something you believe in.”
Thank you! “I know this is hard and students are rude but thank you.”
Impromptu GAPers! “May I volunteer?” a young man offered. On Day 1, a young woman came to talk. On Day 2, she came to hand out our pamphlets and engage students!
An easy switch. She signed pro-abortion at the poll table, then asked Mik’aela, “If the mom is poor, why bring the child into the world?” Mik’aela replied, “The child is already in this world.” Then the student said, “OK, you sold me.” And with that, she signed the pro-life side of the poll table.
Realistic. James approached one of our staff, “What organization is this? I have heard of organizations that use graphics and how horrible they are. These aren’t so graphic. They are realistic. Abortion takes a life. I wouldn’t kill my 1-year-old. I wouldn’t kill a human in the womb either.”
Amen to that!
Mixed Nuts at University of North Carolina Charlotte
Deceitful men want to keep their options, weak pro-lifers refuse to evangelize, but strong women keep their children and excel in their careers.
Ignoring the Great Commission. “I believe abortion is wrong but also it is wrong for me to tell anyone what they should do.” Good thing the Apostles didn’t feel that way.
Legislating morality. “We shouldn’t legislate morality,” she told CBR volunteer Anne. Anne replied, “All legislation, even traffic laws are legislating morality.” “Well you have a point!” the young woman admitted.
Jesus was right. Again. A female police officer had a 12 year old girl. She had her daughter when was 16. The father of the baby and her own father thought she should abort. But she did what she had to do to make it happen. Now she has a beautiful daughter. And a career. Reminds us of Matthew 6:33: But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.
It’s all about feewings! “The fetus is only a baby when the mom feels like it is,” she said.
Honest presumptions. “It’s part of her body. And you believe it has a soul, but the rest of us don’t,” the older man said. Maggie replied, “I didn’t say anything about a soul.” He put his hand out and said, “I’m just going to make presumptions about what you believe, and I’m not interested in having a longer conversation.” At least he was honest.
HIS options. “Yes it should be legal. Because I like having the option!” the young man said. Ladies take note. If he gets you pregnant he will want to exercise his options. You and your baby won’t stand a chance.
Kind words and pictures make the difference. “The only reason I support abortion is because I don’t believe they are human yet.” After a discussion with CBR staffer Mik’aela Raymond and a peek at the fetal development sign, she softened. “I did not expect you to be nice and informative. Seeing the pictures make me think abortion is more wrong than I thought.”
Mixed Nuts at University of Tennessee
From our Spring 2018 GAP at the University of Tennessee.
Conclusions before evidence. “I think abortion should be legal up until 6 weeks but not until 9 months. I really don’t know when I would say it’s wrong because I have not studied the development of the baby.”
Killed by “careful” parents. A parent said, “It’s really sad. That is why I tell my girls to be careful and not get pregnant in the first place.” The logic is flawed, because there are many children killed every day that were created by parents who were being “careful.”
Pregnant “men” and favorite races. Like Forest Gump (or somebody) said, “GAP is like a box of chock-lits. Ya neva know watt you’re gonna gay-ette.”
Male student: “If I were a female on the way to becoming a male and was pregnant, would abortion be OK?” CBR staffer Jane replied: “No.” Student: “If I want to raise the child, once I’m a man, is that OK?” Jane: “YES!” (The ideal would be a father and a mother, but most of us would choose any living arrangement over being decapitated and dismembered.)
Student: “One other question. What is your favorite race?” Jane: “The Human Race.” Student: “I like your answer!”
Gaining consistency. A young man tried the bodily autonomy argument except he didn’t support third trimester abortion. Mik’aela convinced him that wasn’t consistent, but unfortunately, he switched to supporting abortion through all 9 months to maintain consistency. That may seem like a negative, but historians agree that Martin Luther King was effective because he pushed people out of the middle and forced them to take a side. Ultimately, muddle-headed thinking is detrimental to our cause.
It’s all relative. One young man wouldn’t consider abortion or anything wrong because morality is relative without a god, universe or higher power. And according to him there isn’t one. Of course, he would change his a-moral position very quickly if you stole his smartphone.
Mixed Nuts at Tennessee Tech University
There were some weird reactions to the abortion pictures at Tennessee Tech, but there were also some good ones.
Not much of an evangelist. Dillon said, “I’m a Christian and I believe child killing is wrong, but I believe it is wrong for me to tell anyone what they should believe.” (Dillon must have forgotten that part in the Bible where it says to stand against child sacrifice.)
Rephrasing the question. “I’m a Christian and I believe abortion is wrong, but if we outlawed this option what options would we have to offer?” Trevor asked. Tony told him, “The option you are talking about keeping in place is child killing, so do you believe we should keep child killing legal?” Answer: “Well if you say it that way, ‘No.’” (We do say it that way.)
What kind of Bible study if he running? “I’m a Christian and I do Bible studies but I believe abortion should be legal.” (We wonder what Bible he is studying.)
Understanding the gravity. Andrew said, “I was raised pro-life and have never wavered. But I never understood the gravity of the act until I saw your pictures. I cannot let this go. These pictures make my beliefs more real and more heart-breaking.”
International support. “Thanks for what you are doing,” Truedor from Napal said.
Evil begets more evil. “I was sexually abused since the time I was 4, and if it weren’t for abortion, I would not be here.”
Can we undo what God has done? Bassom from Egypt said, “I agree with you; abortion is wrong. But what if the child is severely ill?” CBR volunteer Tony replied, “Do you believe in God?” Bassom: “Yes.” Tony: “Well if God is the giver of life and He is the one that opens and closes the womb, then should we kill what he gives?” Bassom: “No.”
A rather peculiar girl. “The UN doesn’t specifically say that abortion is genocide so it cannot be genocide… It is OK to kill babies up to 4 months if the mother cannot handle the baby or if the baby has become a financial burden. … ALL babies should be aborted to reduce the world population to nothing.”
Bill Boyer asked her if she was will to sign up for the depopulation suicide squad. To that she had to pause and think. She finally mused, “I’d rather be dead than in school.” But then she said, “I’m studying medicine so that I can work for Planned Parenthood one day. I enjoy killing babies.”
She might need a psych evaluation before she starts her medical career. More than that, she needs our prayers.
Perspectives of the abused. An older man came to the child abuse picture and just stopped to look. He told Mik’aela that he had been abused by 3 different people. “But to abuse a child who can’t even run away or anything is the worst. Thank you for being here.”
Gems at University of Tennessee
There were some beautiful gems at the University of Tennessee at Knoxville during our Spring 2018 visit.
Planting the seeds, reaping the harvest. “Last year I was mad at you,” Nola said. “But I did some studying and realized abortion is wrong. Preborn children should have a chance to live.”
Future pro-life lawyer. “I’m studying to be a lawyer so I can fight against abortion. Thanks for display. May I have some pro-life buttons?”
We’ll take your baby. A young woman asked if one of us would adopt her baby. She said she had an abortion scheduled, but seeing the pictures she was hoping for another option. CBR volunteer Tony replied, “YES! Bring your baby here and we will keep her until you should want to come back and get your child,” he said. We’re all praying for this young woman and her baby.
Experience reveals the truth. “You guys are doing a great job,” Eric said. He and his wife had two little girls who were born weighing one pound. They were perfect. That changed his whole perspective and even influenced his friends. “They were people,” he said.
Campus pilgrimage. Kaiya walked out of her way to find GAP after she heard about a pro-life group being on campus. She was a freshman and wanted to be a neo-natal nurse. She was pro-life and she made sure to let her pro-abortion roommates know where she stood.
Shocked by [Perverted] Sex Week. We often schedule our trip to the University of Tennessee to coincide with [Perverted] Sex Week, an annual event. “We are so glad you are here!” a visiting mother with her daughter said. “My daughter is looking at UT to come here. Did you see all the signs for “Sex Week?” We can’t believe it!”
Glad his mom chose life! A young male student asked, “How can anyone see this and think it is good? I am glad my mother didn’t do this to me! I am so glad you are here.”
Thanks from the other side. “Thank you for being here with real information,” the pro-abortion young woman. She was glad that people were being informed about what choice actually meant. Forest Gump was absolutely right when he said, “GAP is like a box of chock-lits. Ya neva know watt your gonna gay-ette.”
Exceeding expectations. “I want to shake your hand. My sister was suspected to have autism before she was born. My mother chose not to abort. Now my sister is in med school.”
Mixed Nuts at Appalachian State University
There were varying reactions to the abortion pictures at Appalachian State University. Seeds are planted and lives are saved even if we can’t see it initially.
Talking to a living, breathing example. “The baby is alive when it takes its first breath,” said the student. CBR staffer Mik’aela Raymond described her own birth, “When I was born I wasn’t breathing.”
“OK, that is a little tricky,” the young woman admitted. “I do have to think about that.”
Excuses, Excuses. Samuel had tons of excuses for child killing.
- “I’m pro-abortion, but not after 4 months.”
- “Abortion is child killing but I’m still pro-abortion because the world is over populated and there is not enough food.”
- “My wife had to have an abortion.”
- “We do not want children, not right now.”
- “Adoption is so expensive.”
Shifting the death line. “I am pro-choice and would never try to convince someone against their choice. It is not a person until after 6 weeks when the heart starts beating.” Upon looking up when the heart beat is detected, he slightly changed his tune. “Well abortion is wrong after 4 weeks but I would not tell anyone what they should think.”
Pictures important. “Thanks for what you are doing, these pictures are so important.”
Rape exception. “I was raped last year, at gun point. I didn’t get pregnant but if I had, I could not have carried that child, even to adopt. Otherwise, I know it is a life and innocent and deserves protection. I have friends who have had convenience abortions and I worry about them.” Pray for this young woman and her friends. Pray for healing.
Invisible pro-lifers. A pro-life student told us, “I’m glad you guys are here. I didn’t even know about any pro-life groups. The only group I know concerning abortion is Planned Parenthood.”
In fact, there was a Students for Life student organization at Appalachian State, but they have routinely refused to help us expose abortion, preferring instead to remain hidden and ineffective.
Diary of a Black Pro-Lifer: Pacific Northwest
by Jacqueline Hawkins
Something that was rather bothersome about the Pacific Northwest tour was the common occurrence of white people telling me how bad I had it as a black person. It was a mixture of white guilt, virtue signaling, and racism.
“Oh, the poor stupid black animals can’t take care of themselves so we’ll sit in our little classes and talk about how bad off they are and how vital killing their children is and pat ourselves on the back for having such righteous thoughts.”
Little did they know, when it came to me, they were talking to a victor, not a victim. That left them scrambling to save face again and again. Check out this conversation had at Salt Lake Community College that epitomizes the conversations I ran into time and time again.
Student: “I’m sure you know how hard it is to vote as a black person. African Americans live in such a way and I’m sure you’ve been through this in your life. There is a level of discrimination in how the voting process works.”
Me: “I’ve never had issues with voting.”
Student: “Oh, I mean as a woman or as a person. We all go through it. African Americans and Latinos go through it the worst because they on average live in higher crime or lower income areas. “Right now, they are the least voting people because of systemic racism. The system puts them down so they can’t vote.”
Me: “So, they can’t vote at all?”
Student: “It’s harder to vote. If you don’t have the money to buy ID then how can you go vote?”
Me: “See all my family is black and we don’t have issues with voting. O r buying IDs. IDs are cheap.”
Student (dismissively): “Oh, Utah’s better than some places.”
Me: “I’m from Virginia. And my family in Georgia, Florida and DC have not had issues either. A lot of the time white people think black people are a certain way and can’t take care of themselves but then you ask a bunch of black people and they say they have no issues.”
Student: “That’s not what I meant.”
Me: “You said that black people are just so bad off.”
Student: “That’s not what I said. That’s out of context.”
At The Evergreen State College, a student told Joanna that she had never taken anyone white to have an abortion, but she did take three black friends to have abortions. According to her, they had no hope because they were black. White people had lots of hope and therefore didn’t need abortions unless there was something wrong with the baby. But black people? Well they had no hope of a decent future so it was best to cull them.
While the young woman had the best intentions at heart, like the young woman in Utah, the mentality that black people are stupid, down-trodden, animals in need of the great white hope is the same in both cases.
Even more tragically, their “help” often takes the form of the grim reaper.
Gems at Lane Community College
Despite a cadre of vocal pro-abortion protesters, we met many thoughtful students at Lane Community College in Eugene, Oregon.
Sharing the Gospel. “F*** you,” Bryan told Joanna. For a visual aid, he held up his middle finger. Joanna responded calmly. By the end of the conversation he said he was sorry for how he acted. He brought up rape and the woman’s body in their calmer conversation. He was an atheist but agreed that selfishness is not good. Joanna shared the Gospel and why we love and care, and should be self-sacrificial because God loved us first and sacrificed for us.
A changing mind. This same Bryan came back the next day. He had thought long and hard about his first conversation with Joanna. “Two months is long enough for a woman to decide, and after that she shouldn’t kill her baby,” he declared. Progress!!! Joanna thanked him for thinking about what she said and coming back and encouraged him to consider the implications of his view. If abortion is not OK after 8 weeks, then why not? And what does that mean in a country and state where abortion after that point is allowed?
Young moms understand. Skyann and McKenzie were both teen moms in high school. Motherhood made them serious so they were already taking college classes. Skyann kept her baby despite the lack of support she had initially. “Yeah you’re giving up your freedom, but it’s so worth it. All you do in high school is drink and party anyway so that’s all you’re giving up. It’s amazing to watch your child grow,” Skyann said. “This is so great. I mean, it’s sad to see; the truth hurts,” McKenzie chimed in. Skyann told Joanna about a friend who had been raped. She went through with her pregnancy despite it all. She loved her baby no matter what.
Supporting remarks. We got lots of encouragement at Lane CC:
- “It’s refreshing to see an opposing point of view!” The young man said he was tired of always being silenced.
- “Good for you. Hang in there. It’s the right thing to do.”
- “I’m glad you’re here. It needs to be in their face. Stay strong.”
- “Thank you for being here,” said a woman whose grandchild was killed at the local Planned Parenthood.
Mixed Nuts at Portland State University
The “antifa” were out to get us at Portland State University, but the police presence dissuaded personal violence. They did, however, splash paint on one of our signs (which we cleaned up in just a few minutes).
Still, there were also expressions of support to encourage us.
Leftist “tolerance.” Leftist pro-abort: “We should abort Christians.” (Joanna: “Do you want to kill us now?”) “Well, there are police around, so I can’t really answer that.”
Another peace-loving leftist said, “If the police weren’t here, I would knock you unconscious.”
He gets it. “It’s a selfish decision. Thank you guys so much did what you’re doing. This is so important for people to hear.”
Demonic. “Do you believe in God? Do you believe in magic?” the girls said at they threw demonic dust at us. “Curses for you,” one said. Thankfully, throwing things at people is a crime, so the police quickly intervened.
They chose life, not death. David and his girlfriend considered abortion, but Christian friends encouraged them not to, so they kept their baby boy Rowan. And they got married! David is still in school, and the happy couple are expecting a second baby!
See you in hell! “Do you believe in hell?” said another disciple of tolerance and diversity. (Joanna: “Yes.”) He snarled, “You’re gonna burn in it.”
A victor, not a victim. A young woman who had been sexually abused spoke her mind. “They love victims here, and they love to keep you a victim.” When she decided to move past her victim status, they no longer had any use for her.
Join the $quad! A young man walked up and handed us $100. “This is a good cause,” he said. Do you agree? Click here to join his effort to $upport us.
Pro-Life on Campus in Tennessee and North Carolina
In the Spring semester, we focused our GAP efforts on North Carolina and Tennessee. We traveled to Appalachian State, the University of Tennessee, Tennessee Tech, UNC Charlotte, and UNC Greensboro.
North Carolina is especially important, because it is one of the most important swing states in our region.
These are all schools we have visited before, but once every year or two is not too often. New students come and go, so we always get a new audience. Also, even when we get repeat customers, they often say that we move the needle on their opinions with each visit.
With your $upport, we will get abortion photos on every campus, every year. With that much exposure to reality, it will be almost impossible for pro-abortion professors to lie to our students any longer.
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Not a Nazi at University of Tennessee Knoxville
by Jacqueline Hawkins
Brandon, the perennial graduate student, comes to every GAP. This time, he brought his friend, Aaron, whose main sticking point was that we are calling aborting women Nazis, despite our prominent declaration to the contrary.
Joanna explained to him why that wasn’t the case, but he stuck to his guns, seeing himself as a champion for women.
Overhearing him, Alice walked up. She was the epitome of cool. She had long messy hair and a cigarette in hand. “I have had an abortion. I have 2 kids now. I don’t see anything calling me a Nazi.”
Oh but she was wrong! Her poor woman brain couldn’t understand! And so Aaron proceeded to mansplain to her that GAP was calling her a Nazi and she should be offended.
Alice was unfazed. Puffing on her cigarette, she calmly spoke in a soft voice, explaining to Andrew that she was not being called a Nazi and therefore had nothing to be offended about. Her calm and cool demeanor diffused the situation and Aaron was forced to go mansplain to someone else.
GAP is like a box if chocolates. Ya neva know watt yore gonna gay-yet.
Jacqueline Hawkins is a CBR Project Director and a regular FAB contributor.