Pro-aborts to welcome pro-lifers to EKU
Pro-aborts draw huge crowds to GAP, including people who most need to see the signs.
It’s the sound of panic. Somebody just forwarded me this e-mail:
Hello, My organization, Feminists for Change, a pro-choice, student-led organization at Eastern Kentucky University was recently made aware of a very disturbing turn of events on EKU’s campus. On Monday and Tuesday of this coming week (4/4-4/5), the Genocide Awareness Project will be demonstrating on our campus.
Although FFC recognizes the right of any group to demonstrate on campus, we cannot support GAP’s message. We also take issue with their delivery. The use of graphic and altered images of abortions along with the distribution of false information to EKU’s students is something FFC cannot accept. Please see the website to understand the distortion of their cause against abortion. http://abortionno.org/index.php/the_genocide_awareness_project_gap
As a result, we need to make signs on Sunday in an effort to counter protest. We need clever ideas that will make a statement! Please if you can help organize, email me back letting me know any ideas or times you can help on Sunday. A few of us have already planned to meet on Sunday at 8:30 but I will meet earlier to any of those who can help make signs.
The other portion of the counter protest I hope to incorporate is a speak out. Readings from http://ourstotell.tumblr.com/-this website has great readings on people who have experienced abortion first-hand. For those of you who have written poetry on this issue, this is the time to take a stance and speak out! I expect the counter-protest will happen on Monday and Tuesday from 11-2.
Please email me back if you can hold signs or participate in the SPEAK OUT! WE REALLY NEED EVERYONE’S INVOLVEMENT AND PARTICIPATION TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE STAND ON THE SIDE OF CHOICE. We hope you will join us.
Please let us know if you will participate in our counter demonstration. Also, feel free to forward this to any departments or others who might be interested in supporting our cause!
We need your assistance! Thank you for your time and support!
Let us praise God that the pictures are so effective. If the pictrures did not expose the truth of abortion, win hearts, change minds, and save lives, the pro-aborts would ignore us. They are in a panic because they know that our pictures defeat their most effective strategy, and that is confusing people about the humanity of the preborn child and the inhumanity of abortion.
Please pray that the pro-abortion demonstration will be a huge success, drawing even more people to see GAP. Pray for opened eyes and peaceful dialogue.
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17 Responses to “Pro-aborts to welcome pro-lifers to EKU”
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April 3rd, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Yay, Fletcher! I’m interested to see what their counter protest message is and what it is that they consider about your message that is “false information”.
April 3rd, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Wow! Yeah, that is awesome. I look forward to hearing the response after you guys show up with the truth.
Also, I find it mildly amusing – while at the same time disturbing – that they would actually try to accuse you of showing “altered images” as the result of these abortions. Hello?? Do they not know science and how a baby is formed in the womb? Do they not realize the actual process of an abortion in HOW it ends that life?? Sheesh…how did some of these kids even get to college level with such ignorance…?
April 5th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Believe me, no one — NO ONE — who is PRO-CHOICE is panicking. Also, I’d love to clarify one thing. Pro-choice doesn’t not mean the individual agrees with abortion as a personal decision. Instead, it implies that everyone has the right to make a choice concerning their OWN body. Might I also add, whoever does your graphics is phenomenal.
April 6th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
That picture is not at EKU. Yes, this is false advertising just like every other sign you brought to Eastern.
April 6th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Student at Eastern, this photos was posted before GAP at EKU. Note the title of the post, “Pro-aborts to welcome …” Future tense.
It would have been difficult to photograph an event that hadn’t happened yet. The photo, taken from our archives, was an example of what happens when the pro-aborts show up. The other commenters seemed to understand this.
Regarding the authenticity of the photos, are you serious? If I can demonstrate the authenticity of the first-trimester abortion photos that we put on display, will you agree with us that abortion is immoral and should not be permitted? If not, then the pictures don’t matter to you and I wonder why you even brought them up.
If the photos of abortion do matter and you doubt they are real, I suggest you visit the EKU library and check out any medical textbook on prenatal development. See the diagrams of developing babies at 9 weeks, 10 weeks, 11 weeks, etc. You might also also check out this link to see what a former abortion doctor and the photographer had to say about their authenticity: http://www.abortionno.org/index.php/abortion_pictures/verifying_photograph_authenticity/.
April 6th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
F-U, your argument isn’t new. Stephen Douglas, who debated Abraham Lincoln over the issue of slavery in 1858, said that he was not pro-slavery. He said that he actually opposed slavery, but that the states should have the right to choose whether to be free states or slave states. You can call him pro-choice if you want; most historians consider him to be pro-slavery.
April 6th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
F-U, you may not think it’s panic, but I’m fairly certain that if we just held up signs that said, “Abortion is bad; don’t do it,” the pro-aborts wouldn’t give us a second thought. It’s the pictures of abortion that prove our point; pro-aborts instictively know this and therefore feel compelled to respond.
April 8th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
I’ve have to question the conviction of anyone who was swayed by these pictures. Yes, they’re graphic. Yes, they’re bloody. So are pictures of open heart surgery. Abortion is a surgical procedure. It’s painful and violent like all others.
No one in the pro-choice movement sees abortion as a weekend hobby or something. No one thinks it’s sunshine and puppies. Good job showing the obvious.
April 8th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
Do you, Fletcher, support those who murder abortion doctor’s?
(And I AM going somewhere with this.)
April 9th, 2011 at 12:10 am
Craig, thanks for your comment and your question. With regard to violence against abortion doctors, I heartily endorce CBR’s anti-violence statement, which you can find at the bottom of both http://www.AbortionNo.org and http://www.ProLifeOnCampus.com: “CBR condemns all abortion-related violence and will not associate with groups or individuals who fail to condemn such violence.” I suppose I should put it on my blog as well, but I’m not sure how.
April 9th, 2011 at 12:32 am
I’m glad to hear that and not surprised.
If I knew for a fact that were were organizations in this country that systematically murdered people I’d feel a moral obligation to do ANYTHING to stop them. Most people would, I feel. Yet you say that you do not condone such actions to protect those you claim to see as people with all the rights of anyone else.
How is this? Either you are a pacifist or you honestly don’t believe that fetuses are as much people as you claim.
(For the record, and so this isn’t taken out of context I don’t see Planned Parenthood and the like as murderers and obviously don’t condone violence against them.)
April 9th, 2011 at 1:24 am
Quoting from “Why Killing Abortionists is Immoral & Stupid,” by Gregg Cunningham:
Abortion is legal. Justifiable homicide is cognizable only when acting to stop an UNLAWFUL killing. Even then, no more force may lawfully be employed than is minimally necessary to end the peril to your own life or the life of another. No murderer of any abortionist has used only minimal force.
The solution to the abortion problem is to outlaw abortion. You outlaw abortion by changing public opinion on a broad enough scale to create a political consensus in favor of reform. You change public opinion on that scale by showing the public what abortion actually looks like and turning people’s stomachs until they can’t stand it any more. That is the way social reform has always succeeded. Killing abortionists changes the subject and in the public’s mind, makes THEM the victims and us the villains. It turns public opinion against US, not the abortionists. How dumb is that?
Unlike social activists who have lived under tyrannical regimes, we have the means to change unjust laws by working within a governmental system which is capable of reform from below. If it is morally justifiable for anti-abortion activists to kill abortionists, that same “right” could be claimed by wild-eyed consumer advocates who could begin to kill corporate officials who preside over the production of goods and services which they know or should have known will endanger public safety. The same could happen with radical environmentalists who think “climate change” is homicide; or animal rights activists who think “meat” is murder. The list of grievances is endless and our society could quickly be plunged into chaos. The rule of law is fragile and hard-won and it would be swept away in a wave of simultaneous jihads. We could find ourselves living in the hellish equivalent of Bagdad or Beirut or Gaza or Mogadishu. Every disgruntled sociopath would get a gun and once the shooting starts, it would be very difficult to stop. After a while, people would shoot without any clear recollection of why they are even killing. And by the way, I can’t find any teaching by our Savior which could fairly be used to justify the achievement of social change in democracy through resort to vigilante murder. 1 Peter 2:13, “Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men; whether to the king, as supreme authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right.” Romans 13:1, “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established.” It creates no exception to these passages when some authorities are corrupt or some laws unjust. The same corruption and injustice were just as prevalent in Peter and Paul’s time.
Anarchy is a human teaching. It is product of the Fall. It is not a fruit of the Spirit. It is totally antithetical to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Judges 17:6, “In those days Israel had no king; every man did what was right in his own eyes.” Matthew 15:9, “They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.” Ephesians 4:14, “Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.”
Jurisprudence is the philosophy of law and the jurisprudential tradition concerning civil disobedience in Western democracies has long been to legitimize such misconduct when three criteria were met: The unlawful act must be non-violent; it must be committed in the public interest rather than for personal gain; and the actor must submit himself to the jurisdiction of the state for prosecution. Shooting abortionists fails as legitimate civil disobedience because it violates the first principle.
The civil rights struggle to win equality of opportunity for African Americans was won the moment the black community decided to rally behind the peaceful activism of Martin Luther King. It would just have surely have been lost had they chosen to follow the violent activism of the Black Panthers or Malcolm X.
Source: http://www.abortionno.org/index.php/blog/why_killing_abortionists_is_immoral_stupid/
April 9th, 2011 at 1:32 am
More from CBR on violence:
The Center For Bio-Ethical Reform Condemns Randall Terry’s Support For Violence Against Abortion Providers (http://www.abortionno.org/index.php/blog/the_center_for_bio-ethical_reform_condemns_randall_terrys_support_for_viole/)
CBR Challenges Missionaries To The Preborn Over Violence and Copyright Violations (http://www.abortionno.org/index.php/blog/cbr_challenges_missionaries_to_the_preborn_over_violence_and_copyright_viol/)
April 9th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
” Killing abortionists changes the subject and in the public’s mind, makes THEM the victims and us the villains. It turns public opinion against US, not the abortionists. How dumb is that?”
If I knew that there were “murder factories” set up around the country I’d be more concerned with protecting the victims than my own image.
The comparison to the civil rights movement is moot as they are two separate issues. That movement was about, well, civil rights. The government did not condone the wanton killing of African Americans. If it did, I’m sure there would be many many more violent protests. At least I’d hope so.
April 9th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Luke 19:27 “But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.”
April 9th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Craig, I really don’t have anything more to add. You asked our position and I’ve given it to you.
Even if you believe our position about violence is inconsistent or even incoherent, it only means our position about violence is inconsistent or even incoherent. Our failure to satisfy you on that point says nothing about the moral status of the preborn child.
April 10th, 2011 at 12:18 am
I would argue that it does. But I’ll respectfully step away.