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Pro Life on Campus at Eastern Kentucky University 2013
“Do you believe in welfare for women who become pregnant?”
Olivia, a student at Eastern Kentucky University (EKU) asked this question of CBR volunteer Mark Wolf. Usually, questions like this are simply attempts to change the subject. They don’t want to talk about the decapitation and dismemberment of little human beings, so they bring up every conceivable societal problem known to man. If pro-lifers can’t solve all of them, then abortion must be retained as the solution of final resort (the final solution?). And not just for mothers who face difficult circumstances, but for all mothers.
EKU was our third stop on a 2-week GAP trip through Kentucky. It was our third visit to that campus, the latest being in April 2011. It was cold, but we didn’t let that deter us from winning hearts, changing minds, and saving lives at EKU. Media coverage:
Olivia pressed her point, “Do you support free access to contraception?”
Mark pointed to one of the 10-week abortion photos (a picture of a hand and an arm on a dime) and asked, “Is it ever morally justifiable to do this to another human being?” Her eyes moved to the picture and focused on the remains of the child, and she struggled with the reality of abortion as if she saw it for the very first time.
Mark gave her time to process the image. When she again tried to change the subject, Mark described what happened in a D&E abortion, and asked her if it is ever morally acceptable to do that to another human being. She again stared at the image and struggled with what she saw. Finally she said that she would have to “get [her] sources” and then she walked away.
Of course some people change their minds right there on the spot. But many, like Olivia, need time to consider the facts and weigh the arguments. Let us pray for Olivia and many more like her who are struggling with the truth they saw on campus last week.
Maybe Olivia will become the next Julie:
Media coverage for Kentucky GAP
Check out the media coverage at Eastern Kentukcy and the Univesity of Kentucky. You think they knew we were there?
The Eastern Progress at Eastern Kentucky University:
- Abortion murals met with mixed reactions
- Debate looks into legality of abortion
- Abortion debate is a stalemate
The Kentucky Kernel at the University of Kentucky:
- Abortion display fuels debate
- Letter: Signs present inaccurate information
- Abortion signs depict genocide, breast cancer in false light
- Letter: In response to ..
- Offending social justice with social justice
- GAP uses shock tactics to effectively achieve goal
- Letter from Daniel Sparks
Blue Coast Live:
Abortion debate, Part 5: Fake clinics?
One of the most curious things said at the debate was Dr. McLean’s charge that pro-lifers are responsible for a network of “fake clinics.” Dr. Mclean struck me as a fair-minded person, so I have to attribute this charge to spending too much time on uber-left websites in the hours leading up to our debate, because this charge clearly originates from radically pro-abortion groups who are committed to only one choice for women, and that’s abortion. There is perhaps no charge that is more comcially hypocritical this that one.
I responded that when we are on campus, people routinely demand to know what we are doing to help women in crisis pregnancies. I tell them we do quite a lot. Pro-lifers run a network of centers where women and families can go to receive guidance, resources, referrals to doctors who will treat them for free, referrals to housing, etc. In fact, pro-lifers spend many, many times more money on these activities than on educational projects like we do at CBR. So, in response to all of this, we are to be condemned for running a network of “fake” clinics? If that’s the game, we can’t win, because were damned if we do and damned if we don’t.
Secular ProLife and Students for Life of America have published a flier, Fake Clinics: Myth vs Fact, to respond to this charge. Some of the text:
Claim: CPCs are “fake clinics.”
Pregnancy centers come in two types. The first is a traditional crisis pregnancy center or pregnancy resource center. They are not clinics and do not pretend to be, although in most states they are able to offer pregnancy tests and prenatal vitamins. They provide numerous social services, including parenting classes, options counseling, baby supplies, and other financial aid. The second type is a Pregnancy Help Medical Clinic. These are licensed clinics working under the direction of an M.D. Medical services provided vary from clinic to clinic, but often include ultrasounds, on-site prenatal exams, and/or STD testing. In neither case can these be considered “fake clinics.”
Claim: CPCs only care about preventing abortions.
CPCs serve a variety of women; not only the abortion-minded, but also women who have chosen adoption or parenting parenting, women whose babies have already been born, and women struggling with a prior abortion.
Claim: CPCs use volunteers, who are unqualified.
CPCs do utilize volunteers– and so does Planned Parenthood, the nation’s largest abortion provider and one source of this claim! All CPC volunteers undergo training to ensure that they are qualified.
Claim: CPCs have religious affiliations.
Some do and some don’t. Many respectable non-profits have religious affiliations. People who make this claim are usually implying something further: religious discrimination. This is patently false. No CPC will refuse a client on the basis of her religion.
Abortion debate, Part 4: Who is more pro-choice?
Continuing the coverage of my debate at Eastern Kentucky University. Part 3 was here.
As you might imagine, Dr. McLean was big on “choice.” I said in my opening remarks that I was as pro-choice than just about anybody in the room. I believe that every woman and every man should be free to choice her own health care provider, her own school, her own religion, her own career, etc.
What I didn’t say (but should have) is that unlike many on the political left, I even believe people should decide whether or not they will join a union and whether or not they will have money taken out of their paychecks to support union-backed political candidates.
But some choices are wrong, even immoral, like killing innocent human beings simply because they are in the way and cannot defend themselves.
She also objected to being called “pro-abortion” instead of “pro-choice.” I admitted that I often use the more pejorative term, but it can certainly be justified. Stephen Douglas was said to be personally opposed to slavery, but he argued that the states should have to “right to choose” whether to be free states or slave states. We always refer to him as “pro-slavery,” not “pro-choice.”
Following our prepared remarks, we took questions. Lots of questions. At the scheduled ending, the moderator asked if we would be willing to stay longer. I asked when the Cracker Barrel closed. We ended up staying for an extra hour.
One student asked how many churches support our “hate-filled message.” His question was laden with additional pejoratives, but I can’t recall his exact words. I had to restrain my laughter, because if the Christian church in America—I’m talking about the self-proclaimed “pro-life” church—had ever taken abortion seriously, this would have been over long ago.
People frequently ask about my religious views, as if abortion were a religious issue. I pointed out that although my religion demands that I care about others, you don’t have to share my Christian beliefs to know killing people is wrong. We’re not asking people to accept a new system of morality; we just want them to apply their own system of morality to all human beings.
More in Part 5
Abortion debate, Part 3: The unanswered challenge
In her opening remarks, Dr. McLean asserted that the fetus is not a human. She made several other assertions and arguments that I rebutted, but this was the most glaring error of the debate. As Daniel Patrick Moynihan once said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
My introductory comments were posted yesterday. In them, I challenged Dr. McLean to prove her assertion that the fetus was not human. I would accept almost all of her points. I would agree that abortion should be legal, that abortion should be covered by insurance, that I would even quit my job and find another career. I would do all of this, if and only if she could present conclusive scientific and/or philosophic evidence to show that the preborn child is not human. As you may be aware, no such evidence exists.
To rebut the myth that the unborn child is not human (or that life doesn’t begin at conception), I quoted both medical textbooks and pro-abortion sources:
Zygote. This cell results from the union of an oocyte and a sperm during fertilization. A zygote is the beginning of a new human being (i.e., an embryo). … [The zygote] marked the beginning of each of us as a unique individual. (Keith L. Moore and T.V.N. Persaud, The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 7th ed., Philadelphia: Saunders, 2003, pp 2,16)
It is the penetration of the ovum by a spermatozoan and resultant mingling of the nuclear material … that constitutes the culmination of the process of fertilization and marks the initiation of the life of a new individual. (Bradley M. Patten, Human Embryology, 3rd ed., New York: McGraw Hill, 1968, p 43)
We of today know that man is born of sexual union; that he starts life as an embryo within the body of the female; and that the embryo is formed from the fusion of two single cells, the ovum and the sperm. This all seems so simple and evident to us that it is difficult to picture a time when it was not part of the common knowledge. (Alan F. Guttmacher. Life in the Making: The Story of Human Procreation. New York: Viking Press, 1933. p 3.) [Alan Guttmacher is a former president of Planned Parenthood.]
Perhaps the most straightforward relation between you and me on the one hand and every human fetus from conception onward on the other is this: All are living members of the same species, homo sapiens. A human fetus, after all, is simply a human being at a very early stage in his or her development. (David Boonin, A Defense of Abortion, New York: Cambridge University Press, 2002, p 20)
In the top drawer of my desk, I keep [a picture of my son]. This picture was taken on September 7, 1993, 24 weeks before he was born. The sonogram image is murky, but it reveals clear enough a small head tilted back slightly, and an arm raised up and bent, with the hand pointing back toward the face and the thumb extended out toward the mouth. There is no doubt in my mind that this picture, too, shows [my son] at a very early stage in his physical development. And there is no question that the position I defend in this book entails that it would have been morally permissible to end his life at this point. (David Boonin, A Defense of Abortion, New York: Cambridge University Press, 2003, p xiv)
Case closed, but if you want more proof, check out this article: When does life begin?
More coverage to follow in Part 4.
Abortion debate, Part 2: My opening remarks
More on my debate at EKU. See Part 1 here.
These are my opening remarks, sort of. In the interest of continuous improvement, I’m revising them as I go. But this is mostly what I said.
Opening Statement
Thank you for coming to participate in this debate.
I’m going to take it for granted that all of us here tonight want to live justly with respect to our fellow man. We disagree about who constitutes our fellow man and who does not.
I want to caution you not to believe anything I tell you. I’m an advocate, and so is my opponent in this debate. You can’t know if either of us is telling the truth or not, unless you check it out for yourself. You can’t know if I’ve left out important facts. My conclusions might be flawed. Even if I have plausible arguments, perhaps my opponent has decisive ones. You must do your own research and ask hard questions of both sides.
In America today, preborn humans have the right to life if and only if their mothers want them. This is true through all 9 months of pregnancy. That’s the status quo. And I’m willing to support it. I’m willing to concede that Dr. McLean is entirely correct in almost everything she will say. I’m willing to say there should be no restrictions on abortion. It should be treated just like any other medical procedure. I’m willing to say that abortion is certainly nothing like genocide. I’m willing to concede all of this, quit my job at CBR, and go into another line of work. I’ll do all of that … if. I’ll do all of that if and only if Dr. McLean can present good scientific and philosophic evidence to show that the preborn child is not human. I look forward to hearing that evidence.
The difference between us is not that she is pro-choice and I am anti-choice. I am vigorously pro-choice, as much as any person here, and probably more than most. I believe that every woman (and every man) should be free to choice her own health care provider, her own school, her own religion, her own career, etc.
Unlike many on the political left, I believe people should have the right to choose whether or not they join a union. They should not be forced to pay dues that will be diverted to political campaigns. Washington leftists disagree. I believe doctors and nurses should be free to choose whether they will perform abortions, according to the dictates of their own consciences. Washington leftists say no. I believe people should choose the charitable causes they wish to support, rather than the government choosing for them. Leftists even demand to decide what light bulb you buy, whether you can use a voucher to send your child to the school of your choice, and whether you buy health insurance under ObamaCare.
Yes, we are all pro-choice about some things, but nobody here is pro-choice about everything. Most choices are really matters of personal morality. Even though I may disagree with your choices, I have to respect your right to make them and vice versa. It’s your life. But some choices can be harmful, even deadly, to others. We don’t allow anyone the right to kill another human being simply because she is in the way and cannot defend herself. We don’t allow people to commit rape or child abuse. In a civilized society, no person has the right to unjustly take the life of another.
To put it simple, if the preborn child is not a human being, then no justification for abortion is needed. But if the preborn child is a human being, then no justification for abortion is adequate (except when the mother’s life is in danger).
To open our discussion about abortion, we need to define what it is. And to know what abortion is and does, we need to see it. I’m alerting you up front that some of you will not want to watch the video I’m about to show. Feel free to close your eyes or look away from the screen.
Some may object to images of abortion because they somehow substitute emotion for reason, but that really misses the point. The question is not whether the pictures are emotional—they are—but whether the pictures are true. If the pictures are true, then they must be admitted as evidence.
Naomi Wolf is a pro-choice author who agrees with us on that point. She wrote,
How can we charge that it is vile and repulsive for pro-lifers to brandish vile and repulsive images if the images are real? To insist that the truth is in poor taste is the very height of hypocrisy. Besides, if these images are often the facts of the matter, and if we then claim that it is offensive for pro-choice women to be confronted by them, then we are making the judgment that women are too inherently weak to face a truth about which they have to make a grave decision. This view of women is unworthy of feminism. (Naomi Wolf, “Our Bodies, Our Souls,” The New Republic, October 16, 1995, p 32)
But Ms. Wolf is a bit off target. With the pictures, our intended audience is not just women, but both women and men, because everybody needs to know. The Elliot Institute says that as many as 64% of abortions are coerced, and it doesn’t take a genius to know who is doing the coercing. Men need to know that irresponsibility comes with a heavy price that others will often have to pay.
I’ll show the video now.
[I then showed the Choice Blues video.]
I yeild back the rest of my time.
End of Opening Statement
In Part 3, I’ll describe the unanswered challenge.
Abortion debate at Eastern Kentucky University
On our recent GAP trip, I debated a pro-choice professor at Eastern Kentucky University (EKU). In all of the GAPs we have done, this was only my third such debate. I’ll debate anybody, anyplace, anytime, but few will accept my offer. The Student Government Association at EKU recruited Dr. Meg McLean to answer the challenge.
Dr. McLean got on my good side right away. Early on, she made reference to the Appalachian region, and she said it correctly! Few people from outside Appalachia know how to say it, and Dr. McLean is from Wisconsin. The folks at Appalachian State finally taught ESPN how, but only after their second national championship. For getting it right, we make Dr. McLean an honorary member of the “I know the correct pronunciation of ‘Appalachian’” Facebook group!
Three groups of people show up for debates like this. Pro-lifers come to cheer for our side. Another group comes to cheer for the pro-abortion side. The third group shows up because a teacher is giving them extra credit to be there. The debate was organized too late to attract many of that third group. Of the first two groups, Dr. McLean’s cheering section was noticably bigger than mine. That’s cool, because each one of them got to see the Choice Blues video and hear me make the pro-life case!
My opening remarks (sort of) are in Part 2.
Students for Life on fire at Eastern Kentucky University
The Students for Life at Eastern Kentucky are a shining light on a hill. Here’s what they are doing:
- Week of March 28: Crosses for the Unborn, including abortion photos on each cross.
- Week of April 4: Genocide Awareness Project, Powell Corner
- April 7: Debate between CBR Director and pro-abortion-choice professor
- Week of April 11: Crosses for the Unborn, including abortion photos on each cross. Passersby will recall the GAP photos on the very same spot during the previous week.
So what have you done this week?
Here is another photo of the crosses display, along with photo of a piece of the GAP display. Can you tell they are on the same spot?
Pro Life on Campus at Eastern Kentucky, Day 2
GAP was a huge success on Day 2 at Eastern Kentucky University (EKU). The weather was great, although cold, and we had a steady stream of visitors. I think twenty or so people signed up for the student pro-life group.
Media Coverage:
- Story in The Eastern Progress. Check out the photos!
Pro Life on Campus at Eastern Kentucky University
We put up our Genocide Awareness Project at Eastern Kentucky University today. With rain and 30-mph winds in the forecast, we constructed the display in a perfect location, sheltered from the rain and the worst of the wind. We managed to get the display taken down and loaded up on the truck before the heavy rains came.
The pro-aborts had promised to demonstrate, but only one showed up. Bummer.
Supervolunteers Gary Johnson and Larry Goad drove the RCC truck around campus.
Pro Life Training Academy in Kentucky
Our Pro Life Training Academy in Richmond, Kentucky on Saturday was a home run. More than 30 attended, including students from Eastern Kentucky U (EKU) and the U of Kentucky (UK), members of Central Kentucky Right to Life and Madison County Right to Life, and women from Silent No More.
We are thrilled that post-abortive women from Silent No More have volunteered to participate in our GAP events at EKU and UK this coming week! The compassion of post-abortive women alongside the difficult photos of abortion are a powerful combination. Silent No More and Deeper Still are an answer to prayer.
Jay Watts of the Life Training Institute was our featured speaker. As a former pro-choice atheist, Jay showed us all how to deal with people like … well … his former self! Jay demonstrated the Columbo technique for assessing and responding to pro-choice questions and arguments. He also taught the students how to use SLED and trot out the toddler.
I spoke about the need to use abortion pictures to show people the truth about abortion and demonstrated how to use the various apologetics techniques in front of our GAP display. Here’s an Pro Life Training Academy course outline. We spent about 20 minutes doing role-playing.
Next stop for the Academy is Baltimore, MD (April 30) and the University of Deleware (May 1). Contact us to bring the Pro Life Training Academy to your city.
Crosses for the Unborn … on steroids.
Check out the Crosses for the Unborn display at Eastern Kentucky University. Photos on each cross represent what each abortion really is … an act of violence that destroys a human being.
Without the photo, many passersby will reflexively conclude that each cross means that another woman has made a reproductive choice … no big deal. By challenging that conclusion, the photo gives the crosses real meaning.
Elijah House of the EKU Students for Life wrote to FAB about the impact of the crosses:
There was a young woman who came up to us while we were setting up yesterday and she stopped and thanked us for what we were doing. She proceeded to tell us that she had lost two nieces and nephew to abortion.
There was also a young man who stopped and he wasn’t aware that there was a pro life group on campus. He had gone to a Right to Life conference recently and was excited to get involved with pro life work on campus.
Unfortunately, last night someone pulled up all the crosses, broke several, and tore off most of the cards. One of my roommates put the crosses back up. It’s unfortunate to see how others vandalize First Amendment rights.
Unfortunate, perhaps, but it shows that people are conflicted about abortion. People still have a functioning conscience.
We’re scheduled to be at Eastern Kentucky with GAP next week! Please pray for our time on campus, as well as this time of preparation.